Thursday, May 21, 2015

What? That's all you got? You read this as Gloria having climbed the steps to talk to Lovelady?

Mr. BALL - Now, when Gloria came up you were standing near Mr. Shelley? 
Mr. LOVELADY - Yeah. 
Mr. BALL - When Gloria came up and said the President had been shot, Gloria Calvary, what did you do? 
Mr. LOVELADY - Well, I asked who told her. She said he had been shot so we asked her was she for certain or just had she seen the shot hit him or--she said yes, she had been right close to it to see and she had saw the blood and knew he had been hit but didn't know how serious it was and so the crowd had started towards the railroad tracks back, you know, behind our building there and we run towards that little, old island and kind of down there in that little street. We went as far as the first tracks and everybody was hollering and crying and policemen started running out that way and we said we better get back into the building, so we went back into the west entrance on the back dock had that low ramp and went into the back dock back inside the building. 

Gloria came UP the hill. Not up the steps. That's how I read it. They were having a conversation, so they must have been huddled. I don't presume she went up those steps. I presume she came up to them, their group, consisting of Shelley, Lovelady, and Stanton. And she told them that the President had been shot. 

"Gloria came running up to us and told us the President had been shot." 

It says running up to us, not running up the steps. 

Mr. BALL - Now, when Gloria came up you were standing near Mr. Shelley?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yeah. 


But wait. When he was on the top landing, Lovelady wasn't standing all that near to Shelley. Wouldn't we see Shelly if he was? 

The reference to the top landing was a specific reference to where he was when the Altgens photo was taken.

Mr. Ball - Where were you when the picture was taken?
Mr. LOVELADY - Right there at the entrance of the building standing on the the step, would be here (indicating).
Mr. BALL - You were standing on which step?
Mr. LOVELADY - It would be your top level.
Mr. BALL - The top step you were standing there?
Mr. LOVELADY - Right.
Mr. BALL - Now, when Gloria came up you were standing near Mr. Shelley? 


Now, do you see that word "Now" there? That's a segue. At that point, the conversation was starting over. It was going off on a new tact. 

But, let's say, after all that, that you still think that Lovelady remained planted on the landing, that he didn't budge, that he didn't move in the direction of the sounds, that Gloria climbed the steps to talk to him and to them.

Why do you have to be such a shit about it? Why can't you just say that you interpret it as him not moving and that Gloria climbed the steps to talk to him? I think that my interpretation is far more reasonable, but the fact is, he's dead, so we can't ask him. Shelley is also dead. Frazier is still alive, and he says that Lovelady wound up at the bottom of the steps. Just ask him. 

But, I don't really care what Frazier says. I don't trust Frazier. But, just from reading it, I see Lovelady has having moved down to the bottom and met Gloria there. That's how I read it; it is how I have always read it; and what you are saying is NOT registering with me as anything reasonable, logical, or likely.  

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